Consider this an open thread to talk about whatever, including the debate. The debate starts at 9 EST. That’s 10 Central and some time tomorrow in Hawaii. I’ve worked really hard at not anticipating how the debate will go.
If you’d like something interesting to read while you wait, I recommend If Helene affects voting, Trump may pay the price by Philip Bump at WaPo, It so happens that nearly a quarter of 2020 Trump voters in Florida, Georgia and the Carolinas live in counties declared federal disaster areas. They’ll be receiving all the federal aid from the Biden Administration that the Administration can shovel at them as fast as it can.
Trump has backed out of an interview on 60 Minutes. The plan had been to broadcast back-to-back interviews of Harris and Trump. The Harris interview is still on, but Trump is refusing to be interviewed.
In a statement, the Trump campaign denied it had agreed to the interview.
“Fake News. 60 Minutes begged for an interview, even after they were caught lying about Hunter Biden’s laptop back in 2020. There were initial discussions, but nothing was ever scheduled or locked in,” Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung said.
“They insisted on cutting out of the interview to do fact-checking,” he added.
Asked by CNN if there’s still a chance Trump might sit for the interview, Cheung replied: “Now that they’ve lied about the interaction, they just f**ked themselves.”
The odd thing is Trump is still telling people that Harris doesn’t do interviews because she’s too incompetent or brain damaged or something. Even Trump’s culties might notice that she’s being interviewed and he isn’t.
The Debate Begins
Here we go …
Okay, I’ll watch for a while, but if it’s going to be Vance lying his ass off about Trump’s record, with no fact checks, I’m not sure I can stay with it.
Vance’s answer to the climate change question was weird.
I don’t have a clear sense of how this might be viewed by the infamous undecided voters. Maybe the best we can hope for is a wash.
If anyone’s here, feel free to comment. I’ll check in later.
No debate for me, Vance is just as annoying as Stump. I've already heard his lie routine don't need to hear it again. Besides today is the beginning of the MLB playoffs, my cubbies didn't make it so now I'm a Mets fan. Watching the game now recorded earlier, Mets are looking good only bad thing is Chris Christy has a front row seat so everytime a right handed hitter is up I have to see his ugly mug!
I didn't like how both candidates tried to ‘out-friendly each other. There were a lot of missed opportunities, like when JD accused Harris of "censorship", it was not made clear that Harris wanted social media to be responsible about scrubbing known lies. (Calling it misinformation dignifies a disgusting tactic.) BTW, Rudy is bankrupt for lies he told about the 2020 election. Lawyers are being disbarred and disciplined for lies they presented to the court as "evidence." One of Trump's favorite broadcasters is bankrupt for lies he told about Sandy Hook families.
The First Amendment is not a shield for knowingly spreading lies. Regarding Covid, that misinformation could and did kill. Oh, JD admitted that the Springfield smear against Haitians (who Vance continued to call "illegal") was a lie. Donald Trump holds one record that will stand the test of time – he's the most prolific liar ever to sit in the Oval Office. That's a researched fact.
I made it for at least a half hour. It was in the heavyweight class. A lot of jabs. What boxing announcers call feeling each other out. It reeked of prep and rehearsal. So, I shut it off and went to sleep. Walz landed a solid punch I hear this morning late in the debate on the election denial, election fix, issue. Vance did some fancy rope a dope as he had no middle ring to work with on this one. A steal, it seems, is still part of the republican plan if they need it and can find an opening. A steal is a baseball play, though, and does not fit in a boxing – based paragraph. We should be prepared for republican attempts to wrestle a victory out of a loss, they are hard at work on ways to cheat. Look out for a last-minute rat-flicker from Putin. (why not a football finish, I already blew the boxing theme)
From I read at AP, CNN, etc the debate was a wash, both candidates did well? I predict that if FAUX, etc push the narrative that Vance won overwhelmingly Stump will then agree to a second debate with Harris. His fragile ego won't let Vance have a win while his debate was perceived as a loss. He's way too much of a child for that, Diaper Don!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ujHT4ko00g
This psychic (one of my favorites, I love his uplifting theme music and visuals) said, a couple days ago on Sunday, at 3:20 that the debate would be a draw. Both sides would claim they won. And that it wouldn't matter significntly to the election. He's been saying for a long time that Harris will win in November, and get a Democratic congress.