Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies

You probably heard about the hoax memo the GOP circulated to scare people about Democratic intentions.

Here’s another example of gross dishonesty — at Weekly Standard, a column by John McCormack titled “Read the Bill: Senate Plan Would Pay for Abortions at Community Health Centers.” So I waded into this thing expecting McCormack to explain where he found this in the bill, since he wants us to read the bill. But he doesn’t source the bill. He sources two memos, one from United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and the other from National Right to Life.

In fact, federal dollars can’t be used to pay for elective abortions now, and there is all kinds of language in the bill that makes it crystal clear federal policy on funding abortion will not be changed by the bill. And I can prove it — read the bill. Here’s the Senate bill; the section regarding abortion begins on page 2077.

Instead of reading the bill, McCormack cites propaganda screeds about the bill so that he can lie about what’s in the bill. Classy. You can read the memos he sites, but the arguments in them are refuted by the bill itself. For that matter, most of the arguments in the memos are refuted by the National Catholic Reporter. See also Timothy Noah.

No one at National Right to Life has ever been the least bit squeamish about making up nonsense to support the cause, but I want to make special note of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. At a time when sexual predation by Catholic clergy has become an international scandal, and when it’s become public that the institutional church has been covering it up and allowing it to continue for decades, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops has some cojones producing a deceitful memo to attempt to insert their influence over U.S. health care law.

I’m saying that if the lot of them had a shred of conscience, they’d be very quietly doing penance someplace, not brazenly bearing false witness in order to control the sexual behavior of American women. It’s good to see American nuns and other Catholic organizations coming forward to say the Bishops don’t speak for all Catholics.

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This may well be a dumb question, but I’m confused by this abortion thing none the less. Why is it that all parties seem to have different answers when a talking head asks about the abortion? Republicans and propagandists all say that it will allow the Federal Government to pay for the abortions and the Dems don’t really seem to answer the question! Isn’t their some authority (like an author?) or some knowledgeable person who can actually give us a definitive answer?

Crazy, read the links I provided, especially Timothy Noah, and the couple of pages of the bill itself that begin on page 2077. In no way does it allow the federal government to pay for elective abortion any more than the federal government does already, which it doesn’t. End of story.

Hey Crazy,

Why don’t you challenge those putting out such? Ask them where they find support for their comments.

Hey Crazy, have you heard about the Hyde Amendment? The one that’s currently law? I’d suggest reading that, it’s been law and has been upheld to prevent any federal dollars from going to abortion. All the parties have different answers because they’re trying to play to a certain type of voter. Also, how do you answer a lie?

At a time where US Bishops and Priests, as well as others around the world, are denying communion to politicians and others who support a womans right to choose, I want to know how many of their pedophile and pederast brethren are denied that same right?
How many have been excommunicated? If not all, please tell me most of them. But you probably can’t say that, now, can you?
To The Pope, Cardinals, Bishops and Priests, you’ve been talking and talking and talking for almost 2,000 years. Now is the time to SHUT-UP and let the nuns have their say. After all, they’re “married to Christ,” and might know what’s in his heart a little better than you.
And yes, the Catholic Church has done some great things. But sorry, until you can keep your hands off boys and girls, don’t tell women what they can do with their bodies. And even then, you should keep quiet. You are on the wrong side of the choice issue. Christ told you aid and comfort the sick, the poor, the disenfranchised, and the afflicted, not to add to their misery and the number of them who must suffer.
Aborting a fetus is a tough choice for almost every woman. But it’s HER choice, not YOURS!
And my church, or at least the one I was baptized and raised in, The Russian Orthodox Church is no angel here either. That, among other things, is why I tell people that I may believe in a God, but I don’t believe in religion.

IntelVet…when you confront the liars about bogus memos and such…they just ignore the inquiry. They have built their opposition on the lies that others tell and then quote those lies as if they were truth. Its insane.

In the twisted logic of Stupak c.s. you could argue that giving people tax cuts means the Federal Government in funding abortions. Some people who have received that tax cuts will have an abortion with the extra money they have in their wallet.

You could even argue in their “logic” that the decision to leave taxes below 100% is federal funding of abortion. The only way to make sure that federal money is not used for abortion is take away all the money people have. and buy the goods and services people need for them.