Open Thread
You regulars may talk among yourselves, unmolested, I hope.
Some of you will appreciate Gary Kamiya’s essay “The Israel Rules” in Salon.
You probably heard that the Israeli Defense Force shelled a UN school in the Gaza strip, killing 30 people and injuring 55. The UN says all the casualties were civilians, not Hamas. The IDF says mortars were being fired from the school. The UN says the schools were sheltering civilians. According to Little Green Footballs, terrorists were using the schools as a weapons dump. Juan Cole has a video of a young Palestinian woman confronting Israeli troops who were firing on children.
Even if the IDF were correct, something the Right accepts unquestioningly because the IDF never, ever lies like their enemies do, then Israel would only be responding to Hamas’ war crime by committing another war crime. You can’t get to the moral high ground - let alone win a COIN operation - by allowing the rules of war to be set by barbarians, something that the intellectually and morally bankrupt Right never seems to acknowledge.
The Right’s argument is that Hamas started the violence, so everything Israel does is justified. Basically, it’s the “Jimmy did it first” level of morality; bankrupt, indeed. We’re also way past the point that “who started what” means anything. We’re in chicken and egg territory. Hamas and the IDF are feeding off each other, partners in the same dance.
Simon Tisdall writes at The Guardian that Barack Obama is making a big mistake by not being more assertive about Gaza.
Obama has remained wholly silent during the Gaza crisis. His aides say he is following established protocol that the US has only one president at a time. Hillary Clinton, his designated secretary of state, and Joe Biden, the vice-president-elect and foreign policy expert, have also been uncharacteristically taciturn on the subject.
But evidence is mounting that Obama is already losing ground among key Arab and Muslim audiences that cannot understand why, given his promise of change, he has not spoken out. Arab commentators and editorialists say there is growing disappointment at Obama’s detachment - and that his failure to distance himself from George Bush’s strongly pro-Israeli stance is encouraging the belief that he either shares Bush’s bias or simply does not care.
I sincerely understand that the world’s hair is on fire, and it is dashing about frantically wanting someone to take charge of things, and where the bleep is the POTUS?
But, in effect, there is no POTUS. Or, rather, there is the aggregate of protoplasm known as “George W. Bush” taking up space where there ought to be a POTUS, and that’s how it’s going to be for a few more days. As eager as everyone is for Obama to get on with things, there are arguments to be made for his staying out of the way until he gets the actual power of office in his hands.
First, like it or not, it really would not do to have two administrations going on at the same time. If (Buddha forbid) something might happen that would require the current Administration to act, there can be no confusion as to who is in charge. Well, OK, at the moment no one is in charge. But, legally, Obama cannot step into that vacuum, as tempting as it might be to have him do so. That is a precedent that should not be set, or else it could cause genuine havoc in the future.
We’ve had quite enough of ignoring the rule of law in the Bush Administration. One of the things we all hope President Obama will do is restore proper Constitutional checks and balances.
As fluid and combustible as the Mideast situation is, I think it would be unwise for Obama to issue statements about what he will do as soon as he takes office, because by the time he takes office the situation might be drastically changed. Again, I don’t see the point.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. What do you think?
Psychologist Jonathan Haidt presents five moral values he claims form the basis of our political choices, whether we’re left, right or center. Haidt isolates the moral values that liberals and conservatives tend to honor most. What’s interesting to me are those values we generally share with our opponents (harm/care, and fairness/reciprocity) that we don’t take advantage of to find common cause - our differences have been discussed at length elsewhere. I think you’ll find the talk interesting and entertaining, but if your computer is like mine, the sound comes on very loud at the beginning (you’ve been warned). Haidt has a test you can take to see how you score.
Finally, let’s talk about the word “serious.” There’s a thoughtful post by Peterr at firedoglake about Munib Younan, now the bishop of the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Jordan and the Holy Land (ELCJHL). Peterr met Bishop Younan 20 years ago, when the bishop was a parish priest in Ramallah, on the West Bank. So the bishop is a man who has been living in the center of the Palestinian-Israeli controversy for many years.
Peterr quotes from a talk given by Bishop Younan in 2007, in which the bishop begins by referring to the fall of the Berlin Wall.
[W]ho would have imagined that less than two decades later we would be back to building walls? I have no doubt that the Separation Wall in the Holy Land will one day fall for the same reasons. The only question is how many lives, how many shattered and demolished villages, how much dehumanization and stigmatization will we tolerate?
This Wall is not a sign of justice or peace, it is a material sign of the walls of hatred that are growing stronger everyday. This wall does not provide security, it breeds despair and a culture of separation. And it cannot contain the hatred and resentment that are building every day.
Yes, sadly, of course that is right. But I want to get back to the word “serious.” McQ of Q and O blog dismisses the Bishop’s comments — “Anyone who can liken a wall erected to keep oppressed citizens in with a wall erected to keep suicidal enemies out simply can’t be taken seriously.”
No, Bishop Younan is only a Christian bishop who has lived his life pastoring and serving the people who live with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict every day. What could he know? We can’t take him seriously. Only people sitting in their living rooms on the other side of the world can possibly be serious about the Middle East.
(Do some people ever stop to think that, maybe, other people may understand the world better than they do?)
But this is a common tactic of the left - attempt to draw parallels between any totalitarian regime and Israel so its attempts at self-defense can then be compared to those oppressive regimes.
I can understand someone taking offense at comparing Israel to the Soviet Union, because it is not a valid comparison. However, the Bishop’s larger point is valid, especially in the second paragraph – the walls of hatred that are growing stronger everyday. This wall does not provide security, it breeds despair and a culture of separation. And it cannot contain the hatred and resentment that are building every day.
I don’t often write about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict because there are other people writing about it who follow it more closely than I do — I do not, in fact, claim to know everything about everything — and I defer to their knowledge. However, I do follow it closely enough to know that ain’t nobody innocent. There has been enough wrongdoing and stupidity on both sides to fill oceans. This conflict is not going to stop with military victory. It’s going to stop when enough people are damn sick of it and want it to just stop.
Yes, the Israelis have reason to hate the Palestinians. And the Palestinians have reason to hate the Israelis. Somebody show me the practical application of hate. This is just going to keep escalating unless enough people are able to rise above their own emotions and self-indulgent need for revenge and just stop it.
As for oppressed people versus suicidal enemies — the two do seem to arise together, don’t they? People who identify themselves as oppressed give themselves permission to use violence to fight back. People who see other people are dangerous enemies give themselves permission to oppress. They not only can be “likened” to each other; they create each other. They co-exist in a sick symbiosis. Seriously.
Following up the last post — Steve M. at No More Mister Nice Blog has a good commentary on the same Krugman post. As Steve says, blaming the rise of the Right on racism alone misses a whole lot of other elements of the story.
However, I do think the Right’s phobia of taxes (apparently we’re supposed to pay for government by holding a lot of bake sales) can be traced very directly to a racist backlash against Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society programs, and taxes are a particular concern for Professor Krugman.
Anyway, with all that in mind, I want to point to an article by a conservative on what’s wrong with conservatism. Unlike most of the conservative articles I point to, this one actually has some decent insight into what went wrong and what conservatives have to do to be politically viable going forward.
Having decided Barack Obama won the election because of his campaign’s smart use of technology — which certainly was a plus — Republicans are putting forward a program to do the same thing on the Right.
They’re [Republican online strategists] proposing an ambitious goal of recruiting 5 million new online activists and insisting on a new openness that better integrates distributed grassroots efforts. …
… I wonder whether there isn’t a broader technofetishism at work here. It’s not that they shouldn’t be thinking about how to do online organizing as well as the Obama team did, but at times the impulse to focus on modernizing tactics and strategy makes me think of the Microsoft execs convinced that the right ad campaign will finally convince people they love Vista.
Conservatism has much bigger problems right now than a paucity of Twitter skills.
In other words, sounding the same old dog whistles with new technology is not going to bring back the Reagan Revolution.
Front and center is that the end of the Cold War and a governing party that made “small government” a punchline has left it very much unclear what, precisely, “conservatism” means. The movement was always a somewhat uneasy coalition of market enthusiasts and social traditionalists, defined at least as much by what (and who) they opposed as by any core common principles. The Palin strategy—recapturing that oppositional unity by rebranding the GOP as the party of cultural ressentiment—is just a recipe for a death spiral. Conservatives don’t need to figure out how to promote conservatism on Facebook; they need to figure out what it is they’re promoting. To the extent that a new media strategy is part of opening up that conversation, great, but it had better not become a substitute for engaging in some of that painful introspection.
The GOP hasn’t “rebranded” themselves as the party of cultural ressentiment, of course. That’s what it has been for a very long time. It’s just that the elements of the Right most enamored of the ressentiment stuff is about the only part making any noise right now.
Julian Sanchez continues with his argument that technology alone will not save the GOP, pointing out that many on the Left most associated with progressive ascendancy (e.g., Eli Pariser, Markos Moulistas) are not techies themselves. Technology is only useful when it is in the hands of people who are politically savvy about using it.
This paragraph I find fascinating:
Finally, and perhaps a bit more contentiously, “openness” is a double-edged sword. There is, frankly, a lot of crazy out there—and a vocal chunk of the rightroots apparently under the illusion that McCain’s big lost opportunity was the failure to make sufficient hay of Bill Ayers and amateur forensic analyses of Barack Obama’s birth certificate. This, again, is a recipe for death spiral. What gets lost in the “bottom-up versus top-down” frame is that the left has managed a more useful symbiosis between their grassroots and their intellectuals. What seems to be playing out on the right of late, by contrast, is a frenzy of mutual demonization. Pace some of my progressive friends, I don’t think the recent flurry of activity in the fever swamps reveals any deep, eternal truths about conservatism per se; it’s just what’s filled the gap created by the paucity of useful leadership from conservative intellectuals. What’s needed right now is less tactical refinement, and more conversation about the agenda tactics are supposed to serve.
Put another way, if there was a right-wing Daily Kos, set up with exactly the same platform, how would it not turn into an upgraded Free Republic?
“What gets lost in the “bottom-up versus top-down” frame is that the left has managed a more useful symbiosis between their grassroots and their intellectuals.” This sentence requires some examination. Who are the grassroots? Who are the intellectuals? On the Left, that line is blurry. What technology enabled is that the grassroots/intellectual part of the Left finally found a way to communicate with each other, and then with the political leaders of the Democratic Party.
Ten years ago, we were nearly entirely shut out of the nation’s political discourse. The only voices one heard in mass media were Right, Far Right, Foaming at the Mouth Right, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and sometimes Al Gore. Al probably was one of us at heart, but in 2000 he didn’t run as himself but as Generic Political Candidate As Determined By Focus Groups because no one knew we were here.
It was, finally, through pioneering websites like Bartcop, Buzzflash, and the late great Media Whores Online (moment of silence to show respect) that we liberal grassroots/intellectual types began to find each other and communicate with each other. And from there, we began to challenge the Democratic Party status quo as well as the Right. So far, the result are mixed, but I do believe we are having an impact.
Yes, the Left has its share of crazies, but for the most part the Left Blogosphere has pushed a progressive agenda within the tradition of the New Deal. In other words, we are about where the mainstream of American thought used to be. Elements of the far Left — Marxists, anarchists, International A.N.S.W.E.R. — show up at protests but have been invisible on the Left Blogosphere. The exception are Truthers, but many of us have banned Truthers from our sites because we don’t want them sucking all the air out of the progressive movement.
The point is, though, that the grassroots/intellectual Left used technology to organize, form messages, and get the attention of Dem Party leaders. Few in the Dem Party were making an effort to cultivate us, except to take our money. We had to organize ourselves and crash the gates.
Now, let’s look at the Right. Is there a mass of moderate conservatives out there in grassland country using technology to talk to each other, organize, and challenge the status quo of the Republican Party? If there is, I haven’t seen it. Much of the push from the Right to make better use of technology is coming from Republican online strategists, not from the grassroots masses. Does the Right even have a “grassroots” that is appreciably different from the people who frequent Free Republic, Little Green Footballs and Power Tools?
Who are the Right’s intellectuals? I mean, the real intellectuals, not the ones like Hannity or Coulter who keep rewriting the book How Liberals Are Godless and Hate America and Want to Eat Your Children. David Brooks? Bill Kristol? Please.
I think Julian Sanchez is absolutely right when he says that conservatives need to stop thinking about tactics and message and instead think honestly about what it is they represent. I suggest they start with some honest thinking about what government is and what it is for. And maybe also what the word “conservatism” means. Maybe out there somewhere there are people who are thinking about how to apply conservative principles to effective governance on a more practical level than “drown it in a bathtub.” If so, that’s where the next conservative wave is likely to originate.
Sanchez ends his essay:
The dangerous temptation right now, especially for a party in the minority, is to seek to recapitulate the Cold War coalition model through oppositional self-definition, when something more robust is called for.
Right now most of the Right is falling back to the attack dog positions they held during the Clinton Administration. That seems to be all they know how to do. Something more robust is called for, indeed. I’m not holding my breath.
… the soon-to-be-gone administration’s failure is bigger than Mr. Bush himself: it represents the end of the line for a political strategy that dominated the scene for more than a generation.
The reality of this strategy’s collapse has not, I believe, fully sunk in with some observers. Thus, some commentators warning President-elect Barack Obama against bold action have held up Bill Clinton’s political failures in his first two years as a cautionary tale.
But America in 1993 was a very different country — not just a country that had yet to see what happens when conservatives control all three branches of government, but also a country in which Democratic control of Congress depended on the votes of Southern conservatives. Today, Republicans have taken away almost all those Southern votes — and lost the rest of the country. It was a grand ride for a while, but in the end the Southern strategy led the G.O.P. into a cul-de-sac.
Mr. Obama therefore has room to be bold. If Republicans try a 1993-style strategy of attacking him for promoting big government, they’ll learn two things: not only has the financial crisis discredited their economic theories, the racial subtext of anti-government rhetoric doesn’t play the way it used to.
The whole column is very much worth reading. Krugman says (I’ve said the same thing) that our current GOP is the result of a deal with the devil made 40 years ago. That deal was the “Southern Strategy”; the tactic of using race baiting to pick up white voters who were fleeing the Dems because of civil rights and affirmative action policies. Krugman says (and I’ve also said the same thing) that even the GOP antipathy to taxes can be traced to that.
Krugman doesn’t say anything about the myth of the “liberal elite,” which is the other part of the rightie equation. Seething resentment toward anything that pushes their buttons — urban people, educated people, foreigners, and especially liberals — is the fuel of movement conservatism.
At the end of the cul-de-sac the GOP has marched into stands Sarah Palin. As Michael Tomasky wrote, “Never in my adult lifetime has one politician so perfectly embodied everything that is malign about my country: the proto-fascist nativism, the know-nothingism, the utterly cavalier lack of knowledge about the actual principles on which the country was founded.” The hard-core Right is in love with her, because she perfectly embodies and gives voice to their ignorance, their belligerence, their resentments, and she does so with a smile and a pretty face.
Speaking of Palin, be sure to read Michael Stickings’s essay at The Guardian: “Hockey Mom, you’re no Iron Lady.” Movement conservatives are so besotted with Palin that they are comparing her to their Mother Goddess, Margaret Thatcher. And it is Thatcher, not Palin, who falls short in this comparison.
As Michael says, this is, um, delusional, even if you don’t care for Thatcher. What what either Palin or Thatcher are, or were, or what they’ve accomplished, is less important to righties than what they represent in their addled mythos. But most Americans see Palin for the joke she is.
A cornerstone of the right-wing worldview is the belief that most Americans — most white Americans, anyway — believe the same things righties believe. If they see another American expressing a different worldview, either this person is “loony” — an aberration; not to be taken seriously — or “they’re just being PC,” meaning most Americans who express liberal ideas are just saying what they are supposed to say, not what they really believe. And if conservatives lose elections, it’s either because of voter fraud or media bias, not because most American don’t think the way righties do.
Most Americans, however, may have some lingering racist attitudes but don’t like racism and want us to all get along, somehow. Most Americans think that if a woman really doesn’t want to be pregnant she ought to be able to get a legal abortion, at least in the early months of the pregnancy. Most Americans think most other Americans ought to be able to get decent health care. Most Americans think Social Security and Medicare are good programs, if not perfect, even if they need tweaking now and then. Most Americans think the invasion of Iraq was a huge mistake and don’t give a hoo-haw about staying there in order to achieve something we can call “victory.” Most Americans don’t get bent out of shape if someone wishes them “happy holidays.” Most Americans expect government to be functional and don’t mind paying some taxes if they feel they are getting some value from those taxes (which, of course, is not always the case). Most Americans are catching on to the fact that, sometimes, some government regulation and oversight are a good thing.
Most of all, I don’t think most Americans are riddled with the fear, loathing and anger of the Right. They may be ignorant of many things, but on the whole most Americans are decent, well-meaning, live-and-let-live types who appreciate fairness and don’t necessarily fear everything that’s different. And that’s why they’re not following the Right into that cul-de-sac.
By means of a nice website I found that saves me the bother of tossing coins, here is the I Ching reading for 2009, hexagram 18, Ku, or “Work on What Has Been Spoiled.” “Ku” refers to a bowl in which maggots are breeding, and the hexagram means the time has come to clear away what has been spoiled. The third, fifth and sixth lines are dynamic.
Excellent omen, I’d say.